More Karmi

If you’re a regular reader of Karmi’s opinionated Linux blog you surely have noticed his obsession with passwords, respectively his hate of them. Same happened in his latest blogstory about Zorin OS:

Karmi’s almost right in his conclusion but somehow misses the point:

Great little OS, but too bad they don’t offer an opt out of the annoying “Authenticate” popups ‘n ‘Pesky Passwords’.
Get rid of the Enterprise OS mentality if you want normal Desktop/laptop users, i.e. “normal people” as Linus Torvalds describes them.

The even simpler fact is that the majority of desktop users, the normal people, won’t even have to deal a great lot with typing in their passwords at all. Because we don’t fuck about in the system, we work with it. I had to type in my password a couple times after installation, when I made the system pretty and added user software to it n stuff. And now, since weeks and months I didn’t have any instance that forced me to authenticate. Ok, the updates demand my express permission and authentication but that’s normal, don’t you think?

That’s the difference between geeks and users, between men and women. We ladies often treat our computers like household appliances, like toaster ovens and washing machines. That often leads to fukked up stupidity and helpless dependence but otoh are many of the perceived computer problems self-made by stuntmanny geek guys.

Orca always tried to find a balance. She treats her machines like toasters but when something goes toppsy turvy she knows how to help herself. And, most importantly, she doesn’t suffer nonsense OSes like Zorin. 😐

19 comments

  1. BS … you enter that pestering pesky password a lot more often than you claim. You are a ‘Password Dependent‘ OS user, who needs the demanding Linux ‘Nanny‘ insisting on such, so you don’t realize how how often you actually use it.

    Fuk!?! Put down the mouse ‘n move to the keyboard ‘n type in the ‘Pesky Password‘. Talk about workflow ‘Killers‘!!! OK…now leave the keyboard ‘n go back to the mouse.

    Anyway, I’m in the process of doing a series on the new Slackware 15 Stable release, and have come across a ‘Live’ version that offers both the standard Linux ‘Password Dependent‘ OS user, and a root user at login. You might give it a try after my first review post on it, just to see how *FREE* it can be when using an OS that only requires one or less passwords during a session.

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    • I’m trying very hard to come up with situations in which I must type in my password … but apart from the updates I can’t find one. You got any idea when I changed anything at my setup? I guess last time was when we installed Warpi on our machines. Ya, that needed verfication via password afaik. Oh, and when I set up the Clevo lappy in September 21. Since then only when updating. I don’t find that too pesky; at least not pesky enough to trigger me to hunt for a new distro.

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        • What about it? No idea when I used it the last time. And it’s no problem to verify my presence once when starting it. Remember, it’s super easy and quick to destroy your whole system with a single mouseclick, so better be careful and ask if the user has permission to run amok. But as I said I haven’t used in in months.

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          • Please allow humble me to ‘Trigger‘ you a tad more… 😉

            Remember, it’s super easy and quick to destroy your whole system with a single mouseclick, so better be careful and ask if the user has permission to run amok.

            More Linux BS, because after you’ve entered the pestering pesky password in Linux, you can then still “destroy your whole system with a single mouseclick”.

            Android users don’t destroy their systems…have never had an Android tablet or phone ask me for a password.

            MS Windows has only ever asked me if I wanted to use a password, I said no, and have never been asked for or about a password again.

            Chrome OS asks for a password at login, and after that no more passwords during that entire session.

            Home Desktop OSes don’t need annoying “Authenticate popups” or pesky “Passwords” slowing down the workflow…well, some of you do. 😉

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            • “after you’ve entered the pestering pesky password in Linux, you can then still “destroy your whole system with a single mouseclick”. ”

              Yes, of course! I wouldn’t wanna work on a system that doesn’t give me the option to self-destroy. 🙂 But with the password the system at least knows it’s me, the resident queen, and not any of my underlings. And really, the very few times I need to enter my credentials it’s not even enough to waste a thought on it.

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        • “my arch crashed”

          How’d you do that? Have you been a boy and confused your Linux OS with an experimental lab setup? You know there’s no reason why Arch should crash more often than Debian or anything else.

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            • 😮 + 😦

              Just like that? Update and p00f?

              I can assure you and all the readers there was no major fukup in Arch updates lately (the last couple of years).
              Some didn’t go through though but, as I also posted repeatedly, just ignore and move on. Your system will be in the state it was before the update so you can work on it like normal. They will notice and correct in the next few hours/days and send a new update that will finish without any errors. Or read the forums where the clever geeks will have figured out a workaround.

              Neo, don’t you think it’s about time to replace your old HDD with an SSD? It’s so much sexier and faster! 😉

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