Windsurfingrace Day 5 with Sea Boss Rider at Saint Aubrey

Yesterday weather conditions were like a thunderstorm in the mountains on a beautiful summer day. All day long it was fine and calm and suddenly in race 1 the storm came in (5 crasher of 7) and went again for race 2 (1 crasher of 8).
Sanja, Adeli, Lucy, Ella (first time), Ester, Larry and Walt joined me in first race and Amy (first time) joined us additional in second race on our normal courses with wind from North and 25knots.

the fleet before the storm in first race

After the start i got already disconnected on first simcrossing and didnt even see the startline. Ester, Lucy, Adeli and Larry crashed one after another during the first lap. Ella followed us in second lap.

the fleet starting in first race (video by Hakiria)
Sanja, Walt and Larry at buoy OE in first lap (video by Hakiria)
Sanja, Walt and Ella finished first lap (video by Hakiria)
Walt finished first and Sanja second, Ella crashed sadly at last crossing and missed the finishline (video by Hakiria)
the fleet still optimistic and prepared again for the second race

I was just a little overmotivated at the start of second race, had to start again and follow the fleet.

start of second race (video by Hakiria)

After my late start i tried to catch up with the fleet. On the first two legs i saw only all the little dots on minimap close together, but in the second leg i could catch up a bit more and had them all in front of me. They were all pretty close together and changed positions all the time. Really hard to remember who was passing who all the time, but very exciting to watch.

chasing the fleet

On the downwind leg between buoy ON and OE Walthard (porttack) hit Sanja (starboard tack) and overlooked twice my penalty order. So i had no other chance as to disqualify him at the end of the second race.
While i typed the penalty orders in our conference chat i overlooked the dangerous simcross after buoy OE and crashed again.

Walthard (DSQ), Adeli, Sanja, Larry, Amy and Lucy finished (video by Hakiria)
Ellas board finished on itself while she crashed 100m before at the last crossing (video vy Hakiria)

Here are the results from yesterday:

9: 2021-02-04-St AR – SBR – 1 – N25:

1: Walthard Resident BS869d – Race Time: 0:10:24-6points
2: SanjaSH Resident BS5fad – Race Time: 0:10:42-3points
3: Adeli Panthar BSb673 – Not Finished-1point
3: LucyInTheSky Afarensis BS3536 – Not Finished-1point
3: Naked Rumrunner BS8c62 – Not Finished-1point
3: eleanorvelvet Resident BSbccf – Not Finished-1point
3: citacg Resident BSdca5 – Not Finished-1point

Lap Times:
Walthard Resident BS869d – Start: 0:00:05 – Lap 1: 0:05:11 – Last lap: 0:05:08
SanjaSH Resident BS5fad – Start: 0:00:02 – Lap 1: 0:05:09 – Last lap: 0:05:31
Adeli Panthar BSb673 – Start: 0:00:02 – Lap 1: Not Finished
LucyInTheSky Afarensis BS3536 – Start: 0:00:05 – Lap 1: Not Finished
Naked Rumrunner BS8c62 – Start: 0:00:05 – Lap 1: Not Finished
eleanorvelvet Resident BSbccf – Start: 0:00:26 – Lap 1: 0:05:58 – Last lap: Not Finished
citacg Resident BSdca5 – Start: 0:00:27 – Lap 1: Not Finished

10: 2021-02-04-St AR – SBR – 2 – N25:

1: Adeli Panthar BSb673 – Race Time: 0:16:21-9points
2: SanjaSH Resident BS5fad – Race Time: 0:16:29-6points
3: Naked Rumrunner BS8c62 – Race Time: 0:16:32-4points
4: Montserrat Naidoo BSce61 – Race Time: 0:17:44-3points
5: LucyInTheSky Afarensis BS3536 – Race Time: 0:17:54-2points
6: eleanorvelvet Resident BSbccf – Race Time: 0:20:48-1point
7: Walthard Resident BS869d – Race Time: 0:16:18-DSQ
8: TgBianca Resident BSeb40 – Not Finished

Lap Times:
Adeli Panthar BSb673 – Start: 0:00:02 – Last lap: 0:16:19
SanjaSH Resident BS5fad – Start: 0:00:00 – Last lap: 0:16:29
Naked Rumrunner BS8c62 – Start: 0:00:04 – Last lap: 0:16:28
Montserrat Naidoo BSce61 – Start: 0:00:03 – Last lap: 0:17:41
LucyInTheSky Afarensis BS3536 – Start: 0:00:04 – Last lap: 0:17:50
eleanorvelvet Resident BSbccf – Start: 0:01:03 – Last lap: 0:19:45
Walthard Resident BS869d – Start: 0:00:03 – Last lap: 0:16:15-DSQ
TgBianca Resident BSeb40 – Start: 0:00:22 – Last lap: Not Finished

Standing overall St AR 2021 SeaBossRider Championship (after 10 races):
Sailor – points – number of races
Walt – 53 – 8
Sanja – 51 – 10
Adeli – 49 – 10
Lucy – 29 – 10
Larry – 26 – 10
Ester – 10 – 6
Laured – 5 – 2
Amy – 3 – 1
Viv – 2 – 1
Ella – 2 – 2

Well congrats to Walthard and Sanja for surviving the first race and thank you to all the rest staying motivated and optimistic for the second race. The reward for all was a really exciting race with lots of changing positions and awesome duells at full speed and congrats to Adeli for winning the second race.

Stay all safe and healthy and hope to see you all back next week.

hugs and kisses
Bianca

31 comments

  1. In second race Amy and me were involved in the same siuation as Sanja and Walt: Amy in STB and hit me (Port), as this bad, bad girl didn’t react in time to her approach. As soon as I saw herback in the race I did my 360 penalty.

    Difference was that instead of argumenting about being right we were both begging for pardon after race 😉

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  2. good for you Lucy

    but i saw it different
    after i kept up with her on port tack, Sanja and me sailed next to each other but with some distance.
    Cant be other way as i sailed about 130-140 awa direction porttack to the rock wall. aim was the island corner in 180 degree ahead.

    Sania as next to me on same hight slowly coming closer to me with sailing higher awa . and i was leeside then and row.
    if she would have been already on starboard tack she would have sailed 150 140 130 degrees on starboard tack coming in a nearly 90 degree angle towards me with a 90 degree crash would have happened which was not.
    was more shoulder on shoulder for a few seconds then she tacked in me and that moment she was starboard..
    but our board where stuck together then .and i came out a bit better maybe this time.
    so for me it was the other way round.. i got fouled. or at least draw.

    its easy to say not to discuss about it. we had lots of situations with crashs and bumpings where nobody got a penalty., , so why now.

    in some other race at eki also missing a buoy was not at all sanctioned. even it was called inthe race.
    so its measured with double standard, which makes me think.

    then its said its only for fun and should not be taken so serious which i agree.
    but then for all please.

    and rules are good thats why i ask soemtimes to learn., if said i take it too serious i can say the same as i got DQ, so soemone must have taken it serious.

    The penalty call i saw just after finish in chat thats of course my fault.

    Greetings

    Walthard

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    • 1. I dont discuss or accept any situations from the past i cant remember anymore.

      2. i designed courses specially for close and exciting races and specially for the windsurfer and i think we all love specially these close and exciting duells and races. But they include little bumps on the high speed legs and they include touchings at the buoy turns after 3, 4 or 5 sailed parallel to a buoy with 15-16knots. Over the time i am very sure all these situations will be levelled. So i call these “touches” race actions.

      3.Now your situation with Sanja. You are right you had ROW after buoy ON because of leeward. But you two sailed south east and nearer and nearer to the land. The closer Sanja came to the land the more your leeward ROW moved to Sanja for obstacle ROW.
      With your straight course to the sim corner you would have forced her to sail into land and that is a foul. You need to give her room at the land and you need to be prepared that she will change her course not to run into the land.

      4. A downwind tack has a quite wide circle. So if you have really sailed parallel close together and she tacked then she would have hit you at the front with a only small angle and would not have been even on starboard tack. But she was already on starboad tack, you hit her in her back half with an angle of nearly 90°. So there must have been enough time for you to react, but you wanted to keep your course to the sim corner and you thought you have leeward ROW. But with the point 3. you hadnt ROW anymore and so this was your and only your foul.

      5. I dont discuss my philosophy of interpretating “race actions” or fouls like starboard tack – porttack. You might like my way or not but i wont change it because it worked the last 4 years very well. I want people to discuss how exciting the race was, how close they were to a heart attack because of their duells and not about every little detail of the very thick rulebook after every race.
      I try my very best to watch the dots on minimap and the sailors in front of me but i cant see every situation and i will even miss probably some situations if i dont sail with you guys here.

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      • I still hate the Obstacle ROW rule with a passion. It’s against everything we learned about sailing as little kids, and it’s used by racers as a strategic weapon. They get themselves into danger (needlessly) and for that stupidity they are rewarded with ROW. 😮 From a pure human perspective it’s so very very wrong.

        I remember in dunno, the stone age, Trap as skipper, with 3 of us crewing, lost the final race of the Solstice Cup when she refused to tack away and rammed into Epi who then rammed into the finish line buoy: Result was DSQ for the TrYC team … and me being the worst person on earth because I had the impertinence to discuss the sense of the rule in SA Sailing Forum.

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  3. I didn’t see your collision so I can only imagine the situation.

    If you were shoulder to shoulder in port and she tacked, becoming in stb, it would be your duty to avoid collison, giving her RoW, BUT to do so she should give you enough time and room to react to her maneuvre. If this was the case, you are right.

    This wasn’t absolutely the case among Amy and me. 😉

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  4. i was on course of the wall and not on direct course to the island corner yet and needed still to tack 2 times to pass it ,or yes would have hit the wall.
    it was still some time to go until the wall .it was not close to the wall at all.

    i dint hit her in her back we bumped first and went parallel me pressing to the left she to the right,
    then her board passed through me and i went on my course and she her new. she went like through my board.

    maybe you saw the moment when our boards disconected again.
    and that looked like hitting in 90 degree. but then we wouldnt have gone parallel with bumping bords before.

    that you dont remember some time ago is ok but i do and it was you who saw the sailor missing the buoy and wrote it in nearby or race chat.
    i waited to ask what consequences it has to miss a buoy until the next day and you said nobody reacted on your objection and now its too late for consequences.

    so when can I ask about ia race situation also for to learn, if not after the race and the next day its too late.

    as you cant see all while sailing too is logical, but then should also be allowed to mention some things and you also do that if somebody didnt give you room or so.

    and i like the way how things are handled. this was an exception as i see the Dsq as unjustified and a bit unfair if other incidents are not also sanctioned soemtimes.

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    • – i was behind you two and i had to tack at the sim boarder just a bit after you two. so Sanja was already at that point, close to the sim boarder (obstacle). So you had to give her already room.
      – i saw you hitting her at nearly 90° and i decided that
      – i told you yesterday that i normally would have to disqualify you but i would put you behind Sanja (because of that incidents between you two) and you said “disqualify me” if you have to and now you say you think its not justice… well make up your mind and then stay with it but dont change it daily please

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    • “her board passed through me and i went on my course and she her new. she went like through my board.”

      The intricacies of SL! 🙂 Sanja obviously saw a totally different image of the incident than you; Bianca and Lucy again different. We’re all on different Pings and Latency, and I found out back when I had the slowest internet connection that I saw things on my screen that happened 20 secs ago! 😮

      Once I was fired from a dancer job since my boss told me I was just standing motionless on the stage … I saw my avie dancing all the time. 😐 But what happened on my local machine took very long to get transfered to the SL servers in America. And many packets were even lost, so what I did at home never even made it into SL. 😦

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  5. i didnt change my mind, if you have to decide like that you have to . if thats the rule if i dont react on your penalty , i dotn know if you can ask me if im ok to be placed behind sanja. i dotn ask for a special treatment. so i go with the rule. and you said you had no other choice in the report -.so also not to place me behind.sanja. .but only DSQ
    i still wont agree to both solutions as i see the happening different and thats what i don agree to
    that happens .that competitors dont agree with the referee 🙂
    but of course need to accept it.and said ok then.
    i saw your final decisions only inthe report..
    and as lucy commented about it i also gave my opinion of it.
    but as you cant see all, maybe we should be able to set a protest if an incident happened and then say what the protest is about.
    and then give opinions or asking who saw what.
    im not refering only on my case now.

    ok you say not after the race directly but when then ?
    maybe in a given time. and then decisions about it.

    just as suggestion

    .

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    • I totale agree. I don’t really understand how you can spend more than 10 hours a day online and follow a dramadisussion here instead of Just poping an IM or come for a nice chat for a talk about that.
      I don’t like racine, most know that, mainly because of that kind of things, and I got involved into Aubrey because of friendship and relaxed way in having fun, it should stay that way. Remember real heroes are on real water, we don’t play our lifes here.
      Just be adult and keep cool (and drink more beer lol)

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      • “spend more than 10 hours a day online and follow a dramadisussion here”

        I like it! 🙂 This is what we did all the time back in the days when SL Sailing still had a forum. Now I’m happy to offer my blawg as a quasi ersatz forum and see some lively discussion here. Remember we even talked about this possibility after the official forum and website was closed by Béa. Nobody wanted to make a new one, so I got Lucy and Bianca to publish their race reports here … including discussions.

        “Just be adult and keep cool (and drink more beer lol)”
        \o/ YAY! \o/

        xoxo

        PS: Sorry, I don’t understand that “adult” thing. What do you mean by that?

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  6. Maybe I didn’t write it good. I more ment that talk would have better been followed on the dock, or later between them, when they are both online, especialy knowing they started talking about that.
    I don’t discuss the benefits of a blog with comments or a forum to exchange about different pov, debates are always good, but in this case, it just looks like a way to avoid a direct talk. This is what I meant by « be an adult ». If I had something to say to someone I meet everyday on a marina, I would just talk to him/her instead of sending a personal message on a blog or a forum.

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    • LOL, yes I know what you ment to say but as a Second Life avie (a totally childish perpetual 21 y/o communist bikini beach bimbo) I cannot grasp the principle of adult acting. Not if I wanna stay in character. 🙂

      And … hm, I dunno if you noticed but when two avies talk face to face in a marina, it’s just makebelieve. They are still sitting big and fat behind their computers at home, no matter if talking in local chat, in IM, blog or forum, using type or voice.

      In so far I prefer the blog/forum since other people, more cleverer people, have the chance to chime in with their expertise and anecdotes. And the topic can be used as learning material for future generations.

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  7. Hello everyone.
    I keep reading the comments and i am starting to wonder why you will not also consider that the insinuation contained by the first comment of Lucy could have also been communicated in person than via a comment. And i mean this part of her comment “Difference was that instead of argumenting about being right we were both begging for pardon after race 😉”.
    And if you ignore how this conversation started…then i don’t understand why some should be adults and some not. For a conversation in sl, comments such as Lucy’s should be shared in sl, at the right moment. Sure, it could have been ignored, but it was not.
    In the end, the rule should apply for all, discuss all in private, not public.

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    • “the rule should apply for all, discuss all in private, not public.”

      Hi Mera,
      You prefer any conflict to be solved in private, just like Adeli. Which is a noble idea but mostly not very helpful. Because if not one, or both, of the parties admits to have been wrong, we end up with an unfinished dispute. Not good. That’s why I consider it a must to discuss disputes in public or at least in front of a judge. Because not all incidents end as satisfactory and adult as the Lucy/Sanja collision.

      Anyhoo, in sailing races we have rules: When you feel, you’ve been fouled you Protest and the offending party either does the penalty or counter-protests. This will be decided by a judge. There is no room for a private talk on the dock or behind closed doors, a third party (judge) is already involved. And obviously needed when both parties are still maintaining they’ve been right.

      And such cases are often just too interesting and sophisticated and high profile for not to be ruled in a public hearing.

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        • “the privacy of sl”

          … you only get when you converse in IM, so I wasn’t talking about that neither. For the rest it doesn’t make any difference or does it? When the parties can’t get the dispute solved they must involve a judge – if the judge didn’t involve themself already. So it’s out in the open and we can blog about it and discuss in the now dead forum. It’s all good, since in every dispute is a learning opportunity for the benefit of the community.

          I remember back in the good old time, when we had a very knowledgeable and eager and active community, such cases have been discussed in forum, and essays with graphics and photos been written on the website. And everybody was a bit more clever after reading.

          Anyway, as you can easily see Bianca’s report created quite a long comment section, which tells me there seems to be a need for talk and closing. Must I close my blog now for comments, so people can never get anything solved?

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  8. 1. Shame no one is commenting another crazy (race 1) and exciting (race 2) windsurfing race day anymore.

    2. Lucy said only how she was handling her situation and she clearly said that she didnt see it and can only imagine what happened. So dont blame Lucy for making you start your comments.

    3. For me there is a lot to do after a race. Giving out the beer for all. Copying the results into the notecard and giving that out. Trying to follow the race comments on public chat. Answering the “can you help me please” questions in IM. Saving all the Gyazo links for report blogs like this.
    I dont have a problem to explain the decision i made in the race. But i cant discuss parallel to all other things a situation i have decided to the deepest little atomic detail. And that is what happens and didnt even stop here without ever accepting my decision.

    4. To say here in public i decide unfair and different is what really upsetted me and i agree with Adeli that that should be in IM.
    Examples from the past are unfair to use as well. I cant remember those anymore and cant say why i have decided it in that moment, because i decide sometimes unusual with good reasons.

    5. The penalty was given for a foul (discussed enough). The DSQ was given for not doing the penalty.
    We have a race conference. That is usefull and helpful and everyone needs only one window for urgent messages. If someone thinks it is not important to follow our only racecommunication tool then sorry bad luck, just accept the DSQ and learn from it.

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  9. Hmm..I think we have to agree to disagree on that line in Lucy’s comment, for me it “read” as a bit of a provocation, for others maybe not. And of course only Lucy knows how she meant it.

    But I agree on the fact that the discussion should focus also on the races and the exciting moments in the second race. All that speed and the fierce competition between the surfers made it exciting to watch. It really makes you guess who will win the battle with so many and fast changes of the leader.

    And I think all appreciate the time and effort you put in these races and in organizing them. I think it’s obvious for anyone who ever tried to organize any kind of event that it’s not an easy task.

    But bumps will always exist and discussions, and questions. And it’s good to see that everyone is open to discussing such matters inworld (through im’s or nearby) and finding a way to figure things out or clear out things that were lost in the speed of the races.

    I wish you all a beautiful evening!

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    • Well said, Mera, very well said. And can I add that more often than not it’s in fact the grid and/or individual connections to the grid that decide races, not the racers themselves. I remember when I started in 2007 it was normal for me to lose control over the boat for up to 20 seconds at each sim xing. How to handle the situation if my boat fouled another boat while I was staring at a bank screen or was looking at my boat flying through the air?

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      • Hehe Orca, i see avis, boards and boats flying everywhere on the course. It’s a beautiful illusion sometimes.

        Sometimes you wonder if it’s correct what you see, maybe a crash…. or just another sl cloning trick.

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        • No, it’s never true, always just a mirage. And always CLIENT SIDE, afaik:

          – Bad/slow internet connection

          – Bad/slow gpu/graphics card

          – Generally bad/slow computer

          ——————————————————————

          What you can do:

          – Refrain from doing fun things in SL. DO NOT attempt to go sailing! Just stand around at a welcome center and harrass n00bs. =^.^=

          – Conduct a speedtest – https://www.speedtest.net/ – weep a little, and then ask your ISP for a faster connection. Prepare to pay through the nose/lose your firstborn child

          – Move to a country with a truly free market and better customer care

          – Don’t use wireless but plug your machine into the router with a Cat 5 or Cat 6 cable (find them in the box your router came in).

          – Get a a new/better computer! Kick out the Walmart bargain bin crapola, get in something decent!

          – Oh, and don’t open your browser on the side and open 20,000 tabs and piratize movies and music while playing in SL. We’re operating on the forefront of technology here and SL is a particularly gruesome lover and demands your full attention and effort

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          • In RL when your reactions arent fast enough anymore, you need glasses when getting older or you are worse “equipped” you will drive your car more reserved (hopefully).
            I cant beat a Porsche driving just a VW Golf.

            Why isnt it the same in here? Why dont people think of sailing a bit more reserved if they dont have the best connection or cant see all fast enough?

            After some time with the experience of more races you get better in watching all around you and you will be faster automatically.

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    • For me its ok to discuss it here as well, but it should be respectfull, arguments with examples from the past no one can really remember anymore dont help and there should be a point to accept a decision.

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