Why Linux Mint Is Better Than Ubuntu For New Linux Users

It’s the age old question: “Which one is better for beginners, Linux Mint or Ubuntu?” Both are great Linux distros for new-to-Linux users, but one is probably a better choice. I will compare the flagship editions of both Ubuntu and Linux Mint and give you some reasons why I think Linux Mint might be the better choice for you if you are coming from Windows.

You know that your editrix recommends Linux Mint for all y’all. And she doesn’t just make it up, out of a whim. In fact is my recommendation based on experience and careful testing, but mostly on personal taste. LOL, no. But on my personal lazyness, and my love for comfy, cuddly environments. And in so far Mint is so much more easy to grasp and operate for all the total n00bs. It follows the old Windows logic and won’t ask you to learn walking again. Mint is just the better experience right out of the box!

Like Derek said, we’re talking about Day One users, the most critical group of people on the most critical day. Actually I guess in nowadays fast-living times and the impatience of the average computer user, we should make it not Day One, but the First Five Minutes experience. And in that regard is Mint’s standard Cinnamon desktop the bestest thing ever. You can start writing your memoirs right away, while in Ubuntu and most other distros you need a certain cooling off period, a time to get acquainted with your new environment.

dtmintBut then, when the Cinnamon desktop is so great and easy peasy, why not using it on Ubuntu? Well, Ubuntu just cam out with its own Cinnamon version, but it’s still lagging behind Mint, for many other of the reasons Derek is telling you about.

Heck, even my personal favourite, EndeavourOS with Cinnamon DE is easier to use than Ubuntu with that super bad Gnome3 desktop.

Good video. It settles the old dispute once and for all. Watch!

 

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  1. I tend to agree with that. Mint’s good for total beginners. The only problem is, it’s not encouraging you to upgrade your skill as everything comes right out of the box. I mean, it’s a problem for me, but I’m sure others will argue there’s no reason to go any farther than Mint. For these people, just saying we’ll have to agree to disagree.

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    • Now aren’t computer operating systems not made to upgrade your skills in the first place, Phil.

      They should assist us in our work, not put up hurdles. And a DE like Cinnamon does this perfectly. Even some of the modern desktops, with hardly any customization options, are wonderful as workhorses. When you have to type out 20 letters for your boss, you can’t give any fux about your skillset.

      For the sad rest, the tinkerers, the power users, the ones who have no other use for their computers, there are a lot of freaky geeky shit distros and window managers available.

      And for the Linux marketshare, you must get the users where they are, not where you wan them to be in some undefined future. I want everybody to confidently use Linux. Everybody! Even Sammy. 🙂

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      • Well, we’ll have to agree to disagree because I see Linux distros as great teachers and ways to upgrading your computing skills. It may not be the main reason to use a Linux distro, it’s still a valid reason nonetheless.

        Furthermore, Linux distros don’t really add difficulty. There’s just more to read in terms of docs when you install arch than when you install Mint, that’s all. If you follow the wiki (when you have enough experience to understand it), everything’s there.

        Power users are curious people who always strive to become better, I don’t see how it can be bad. 99% of the time, they’re not the ones looking down on others, but the first ones coming to help on forums.

        And again I disagree regarding “everybody using Linux confidently”. I wouldn’t create a user friendly distro for everyone to use. No, I think people should be free to do whatever they want and not imprison themselves into using just one tool because it supposedly is “better” than another…

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        • I see computers, and in extension the OSes, more as appliances, as tools I need to get stuffz done. And the better and easier they work, the better I like them. This is were most Linux experts don’t get me. I use the shit to get it out of the way, I don’t play with it. While most Linux experts don’t even have a need for a computer but just wanna play with tech. Or, if they are using computers they stick with Win and Mac. 😮

          It’s like Lunduke said the other day, on all the Linux conferences you see most of the attendees equipped with Macs, some with Windows computers. But hardly anybody on Linux. Isn’t that sad?

          I use Linux a) for socio-economical political reasons and b) because it works better than Windows, c) cause my iMac bit the dust in 2005 and Macs are too expensive and lock the users in a walled garden, and finally d) because it makes life easy. 😉

          Once I’ve got my distro installed, customized, and my fave programs added I stop caring, just doing my updates and use the shit out of it. Neither do I participate in forums nor in coding or skillsharing. I guess by promoting Linux in my blog, I’m doing enough for Linux.

          And why are you against distros everybody can use with confidence?

          “I think people should be free to do whatever they want and not imprison themselves into using just one tool because it supposedly is “better” than another…”
          Agreed. If I understood you correctly that is. I’m all for it, for geeks making the most outrageus computer stuff. If that’s how they wanna spend their time go for it and more power to them. But for me, and 99.999% of computer users, we want something that just werkz! And makes our life easypeasy. And Linux is exactly that!
          Or better said, some Linuxes are exactly that. Mint for example. And Endeavour (when paired with the right desktop).

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          • Yep, macOS users make me sad too.They’re SO missing out… Just like Win users…

            Well, if you like efficiency and you’re good with Linux I don’t really see why you don’t like window managers. It’s all about doing things ultra fast with just one key stroke (but anyways, we’ve already discussed that so…)

            It’s not really that I’m AGAINST beginner-friendly distros. I love Mint and Ubuntu. They have their downsides but they’re great. However, I wouldn’t encourage people to make new distros out of fully-functional ones just for the sake of making them accessible to beginners. Arch is Arch, Gentoo is Gentoo. You wanna install them, great! But then you go through the hassle of reading the docs just like everyone else. Otherwise you stick to Mint and let’s be done with it, don’t you think ? But anyways, people are free to do whatever they want. I wouldn’t encourage making too many distros but they’re still there, and it’s the beauty of Linux. How you’re free to do whatever the hell you like.

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            • “I don’t really see why you don’t like window managers. It’s all about doing things ultra fast with just one key stroke”

              But I don’t do things ultra fast. I’ve got more than enough time to do my input slowly, so I don’t need to memorize keyboard shortcuts that put pressure on me. Nothing against fast computers, I love them work swoosh super duper fast – once I’ve entered the order. But my input is slow because I think slow and thoroughly and have, by god, enough shit to memorize in my little brainbox: Cooking recipes, appointments, car stuff, shopping lists, composing blog posts, making photos and videos (I do videos all the time, just not publishing them on YouTube).

              “I love Mint and Ubuntu. They have their downsides but they’re great.”
              No, just NO! Ubuntu is crapola. It used to be the greatest distro, like 20 years ago, but it isn’t any longer and just gets worse and worserer. Mint took the userfriendlyness over and is today’s Linux for human beings. No need for Ubuntu anymore.

              “But then you go through the hassle of reading the docs just like everyone else.”
              Or, better solution for human beings: Use Endeavour. Or Manjaro … if you’re a stupid masochist. Or Eznix’s Ezee Archer if you wanna get invested in that shit. I hear it’s quite the clever installer script.

              “it’s the beauty of Linux. How you’re free to do whatever the hell you like.”
              Amen, bro. 😉

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              • I would agree regarding Ubuntu, though I wouldn’t judge someone using it. I mean, they’re using Linux, so “good enough”, right ?

                Whatever works for you is best, that’s for sure 😉

                Amen ^_^

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                • ““good enough”, right ?”

                  Hm, no, not entirely. Ubuntu users in 2020 are like Windows users, given up on themselves, no bite, no curiosity. They rather learn a new and shitty desktop than investing 3 minutes looking for something better.

                  “Whatever works for you is best, that’s for sure”

                  Yes, but only for me. And, hm again, all Linux distros work for me, but I’m best with distros who run on Mate. I know it’s not the best desktop. It’s primitive, oldfashioned and doesn’t even work for me in its fresh-out-of-the-box state. I need 5 minutes to set up Mate to my liking. Usually that’s much more time than I ever wanna spend on an operating system. 😦 But once it’s set up it’s perfect for me. Objectively not the best tho. I guess the objectively bestest would be KDE. Only I don’t like it. 😐

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                  • I guess you’re right. Though I know people running Ubuntu who are actual power-users so… As a general rule, I’d agree. But Ubuntu is widely used in professional environments too.

                    KDE is so bloat… Long live minimalism! ^_^

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  2. I’m currently trying out Mint 20 on my Mac, and the only problem I’ve had so far is that I can’t get audio to come out of the internal speakers. (It’s doing stuff, but no sound reaches my ear.) But everything else works just fine, including Bluetooth, and I’ve been able to play some Steam games for the first time in ages. 🙂 With some extra tweaking, I should be able to get even more games working from my Steam and GOG libraries. Sadly, thanks to Apple nuking 32bit support and deprecating their OpenGL, Mac gaming isn’t looking so good these days, hence my experimentation. Plus, it could allow me to extend the life of this machine once Apple stops supporting it.

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    • Oh. Sorry can’t help you with your sound problem, Spiffy. In fact I never had that particular problem in any Linux. I install the shit and everything werkz! Are you maybe installing on a virtual machine? There things are different sometimes … so I’ve heard.

      32-bit support will go away soon. In Linux as well as everywhere else. Mint still supports 32-bit, bless their great consumer-friendly souls. But I bet as soon as Ubuntu stops support, so will Mint. They have to! Or finally break off from Ubu completely and concentrate on LMDE.

      Arch, which btw, I kinda use, has already stopped 32-bit support. I wonder that Apple, of all the assholes, still supports 32-bit machines. 😮 I thought they would just be telling you to buy a new iPhone instead. 😦

      Oh, I’ve heard Apple will come up with their own processors soon. To get away from being dependent on Intel and AMD. And I seriously doubt they will have any 32-bit silicon. :/

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      • I’ve got it installed in a virtual machine using Parallels Desktop, and that works fine, but I’ve yet to find out if games will work in there. My research into the causes of the lack of sound on the dual-boot install suggest it’s either a kernel issue or Apple’s audio hardware being awkward. (My Bluetooth headphones work just fine.)

        I’m still on macOS Mojave, because Catalina not only dropped 32-bit support but also makes life a bit harder with more security hurdles and no longer coming with things like Python, Perl and Ruby pre-installed.

        I did try out EndeavourOS, but the live USB wouldn’t connect to my wi-fi, which didn’t inspire confidence, plus Parallels didn’t know what sort of Linux it was when I tried to put it into a virtual machine.

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        • “Parallels … Python, Perl and Ruby”

          Those are all Bohemian villages for me. 😮

          But you seem to be a very wise and techy Spiffy, so maybe get rid of that Mint shit and try something with a bit more pizzaz, like https://endeavouros.com/ or maybe even https://www.archlinux.org/

          Because when you play on that level, why not play with the Big Boys right away?

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          • I’ll keep the LMDE 4 virtual machine, because I can use that for web development stuff.

            I’ll give EndeavourOS another try, do the offline install and see if it can setup all the hardware.

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            • Offline install reduces you to Xfce I guess.
              Anyway, it’s as good as Arch, so after an update it should be as far advanced with hardware detection as Linux can be. Even without update, since the latest snapshot is just a couple days old.

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