Ohayo, my lovely Linux and ArchLinux friends!
You might remember a few weeks ago I installed Endeavour and was everything but satisfied with it. For a OS that’s sposed to be Antergos’ successor it completely missed ths mark by only offering one desktop environment, took forever to install and was all kinds of buggy.
That. Or Orca made a mistake, which is always a very possible explainification when something fails. Doesn’t matter now, my verdict about Endeavour OS was “Not Yet Ready for the Primetime”.
That all has changed now. Just last Saturday the Endeavour guys dropped a new ISO for download, 2020.04.11. And, dunno what happened, either Orca was cleverer this time or the new snapshot was sooo much improved and betterer than the old one. Everything was just a breeze.
I really gotta show you this now:










Hmm, by now I’ve forgotten how many things I had to do and install by myself after install of my recent system, Archman GNU/Linux. I guess it wasn’t much friendlier or better equipped. Only one point, a thing I ddn’t even like: Archman is out of the box made to be installed in a virtual machine. Might be good and practical for many people, for basic bitch Orca who installs everything onto dedicated machines it’s just needless bloat.
What else? Endeavour took, like, 30 – 40 minutes to install. Just like its spiritual predeccessor Antergos, who’s installation process also took very long. Doesn’t matter, since you know how it is with Arch: Install once – roll into eternity. So half an hour longer for a basic install process is no time compared to its lifelong usefulness.
Honestly, once I have the desktop modded to my personal prefernces and all my often used softwares installed, there won’t be much of a difference between Endeavour and Archman, if any at all! š® Both systems are 100% Arch compatible and other than coming withn a desktop/window manager right out of the box, they are by all means and purposes pure vanilla ArchLinux. Which is great if you know a little bit about Linux. At least enough to install your softwares yourself. Once you can do that you’re golden and can use both distros as easy peasy stable everyday mom n pop operating systems.
I’ll have to play on Endeavour some more, spend serious time with it before I can decide which one I like better. As I said they should be identical, as they are runninmg on nearly identical hardware and are sposedly just Arch installers.
We’ll see.
I can Imagine finding a better, more usable forum with Endeavor since Archman’s is very Turkey-biased. Of course for my Turkish speaking readers Archman’s the better choice, the rest will show in long-term test.

And another point goes to Endeavour since it’s on rank #24, vs Archman on #33. Yes, I know the DistroWatch ranking has no meaning but it shows us a trend … kindasorta. š
Right now I feel like installing Endeavour on GagaMore for good. It seems to have a very slight advantage over Archman. Otoh I’m in lockdown mode and writing this post was already very exhaustive and all I’m able to do today. š¦
If you’re like me, you just wanna watcn TV and let everything just wash over you. Here you go:
Tom sets up Archlabs vs Endeavour and … Endeavour wins!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdFhSzvKREc
Old man Eznix reviewed the new Endeavour version. Very interesting view.
I canceled Total OS Today a long time ago, since he’s predominantly a Windows user. But he made a nice Endeavour video.
6 attemps to down load archman over 3 days am and pm. All failed. Guess I won’t be trying it yet
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Oh shit. Is it your connection maybe? I didn’t have any probs. Lemme try it again quickly. Latest 202004Xfce: No problemo.
Buuuut! I guess Endeavour is the better option anyway.
https://endeavouros.com/latest-release/
In the end it’s like an identical twin, just easier to find the desktop you want (since you install them all from the same ISO) and install and with even less ballast. And Endeavour speaks Anglisi not Turkiye. ^.^ And it’s 9 places higher up the world’s most useless chart. š
I’m gonna switch over tomorrow.
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Off topic… you inspired me to look into FiOS. I found a non-Verizon provider and signed up for a 50/50 pkg to be installed next Mon.
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Kewl leendadll, very kewl. I hope it’s not too expensive a shakedown as you’re used to from your ISPs. Ajit Pai’s FCC is nothing but an industry puppet and doesn’t act in the consumer’s interest.
And pls don’t let the other provider be Frontier. They’ve just declared bankruptcy today. š®
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Noooo… the provider IS Frontier!!
50/50 plan is $30/mo but with mandatory router rental taxes, and fees it comes to $46/mo. Spectrum DSL was charging $70/mo… I’m on a 200Mbps plan but my router only handles 40. Frontier is no contract.. I can switch back if necessary.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcDRC6I4OIM š®
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnSAmh7BPcE š®
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYurF6OxMU0 š®
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_WvFqr5GMg š®
And their track record regarding customer service isn’t stellar either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY–ja9U4yg š¦
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None of the local providers have good customer service so IDGAF.
I’ll watch the vids later. At worst, I can go back to grossly overpriced Spectrum DSL and buy a faster router.
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Whew… just Ch11 BK.. reorg and renegotiating debts. Ch13 is the one where they go out of business.
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Yes, they said so. Methinks Ch11 is just foreplay to the bankruptcy climax. š®
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There’s usually min of a year between filings and some companies file ch11 multiple times. In theory, if they closed suddenly I’d be out a total of $46 (prepaid month). Verizon is well off but still owes me about $150 that they will never pay. I filed multiple FCC fraud complaints against them.
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You know Ajit Pai is a Trump cronie? He’s there to protect the ISPs from customer claims, not the other way round. š¦
FCC is a joke these days.
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That’s the internet overlord who approved privatizing the internet, yes? Orange asshat only appoints yes-men.
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Yes, the internet’s most punchable face:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajit_Pai
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