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  1. And this ain’t even Communism or Socialism, it’s just good old Capitalism with a human face, and some respect for human rights and your fellow humans. We call it Social Democracy. It works.

    Same concepts as the Nazi Party had/has…”common good” and all ‘Dat! Such concepts always end in the individuals giving up their rights and freedom to the Government and/or some union.

    There were five forms of governance that migrated from theory to reality in the 20th Century: Socialism, Communism, Fascism, Nazism and Progressivism. The common denominator among them was unprecedented control and regulation by the State over human activity. It is delusional to think that the totalitarian impulse expired with the 20th Century.

    Think: Welfare State, at best…

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    • “Same concepts as the Nazi Party had/has”

      Absolutely NOT! Quite the contrary. My gramps (commie) and my dad (social democrat) both spent time in jail throughout the nazi regime.

      “Socialism, Communism, Fascism, Nazism and Progressivism. The common denominator among them was unprecedented control and regulation by the State over human activity.”

      Fortunately you forgot to mention democracy. Ok, democracy is a bit older but still alive and fighting a hard fight for survival. And that is what worker’s unions are always about: Democratic processes. Not only in the workplace but always and everywhere.

      And what’s so wrong about a welfare state? A good society must take care about its weakest links, this is what defines us, who we are as a society.

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      • And what’s so wrong about a welfare state? A good society must take care about its weakest links, this is what defines us, who we are as a society.

        Yes, loss of human rights always start with the phrase – “for the Common Good.” Then, and it matters not if its Socialism, Communism, Fascism, Nazism and/or Progressivism promoting what follows – the political strategy is “focused on anti-big business, anti-bourgeois, and anti-capitalist rhetoric,” i.e. the open promotion of hate. After hatred gets stirred up, then it only needs the occasional ‘Hated Objects’ tossed in to keep it going strongly.

        Think: Its for the Common Good…

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        • ““for the Common Good.””

          Never heard that phrase, not spoiled enough to think in pro-capitalist theories. But the phrase makes sense as a credo for every civilzed human being.

          “it matters not if its Socialism, Communism, Fascism, Nazism and/or Progressivism promoting what follows”

          Right, it doesn’t matter, as we have left all those fuked up models behind us and they are not part of the discussion. No idea why you’re bringing up that nonsense again. :/

          “the political strategy is “focused on anti-big business, anti-bourgeois, and anti-capitalist rhetoric,””

          WTF? What about any of that is a strategy … and since when is rhetoric a strategy?

          “the open promotion of hate.”

          WTF again! Since when did any functioning social-democratic country promote hate? Remember Willy Brandt and Helmut Schmidt? They tried to make amends with the USSR, Poland and the GDR, while our American and British occupants tried to tie us clother in the NATO and play the strong arm of America in Europe.
          The world at its current state of affairs knows only one really aggressively selfish, hateful country, the good ol’ US of A.

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  2. Well capitalism is a struggle of power – individuals who give up indinidual rights to an unified representative organisation is still capitalism – they just sign up for the better deal – in perfect capitalism employees and employers are struggeling partners – haggling for the best deal for both sides which should be the best for society in total…

    Now, dear Randians, please shut up and enjoy tasting your medicine … ROFL some people …

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