Karmi

“I hated Arch tho – will try Suicide Linux before I try that command prompt reliant Arch again.”

“Only that DOS looking Arch Linux version gave me problems…reminded me of DOS, in fact. GRIN”

This is my recent desktop environment on my production machine. You’ve all seen it multiple times, it’s nothing new or exciting. So this is kinda special showing for relatively new reader and longtime Linux user Karmi. He doesn’t like/use ArchLinux vanilla or derivatives thereof. Because he thinks – and now hold tight for it – Arch is exclusively operated in the Terminal and it reminds him of oldfashioned DOS! 😮

Now I ask you all …

NamibArch

… does this look like DOS? No, eh? Not really. No, it looks like a slightly customized Mate desktop, kinda the same as I do it in Mint, Ubuntu and Solus and every other Linux distro that comes with it.

But yeah, Karmi is kinda correct … kinda. 😉

screenfetch
https://orcaflotta.blog/2019/03/21/screenfetch/

This is also Namib Arch, as I’ve shown earlier yesterday. Of course it sports a Terminal, like every Linux distro but … it doesn’t necessarily need the Terminal! I dunno exactly why, it’s maybe the command structure and language in Arch and all the available documentation, but in Arch you kinda feel drawn to the Terminal. Because after a while you’ll figure out that many tasks are easier and faster done, more elegant in Terminal than on desktop in a GUI. That’s why we do it in such oldfashioned ways.

NothingToDo
Complete system update with a single line of command: sudo pacman -Syu. In this case there was nothing to do for the computer, so the terminal looks pretty empty.

System updates, installation of software, file management, it’s all easypeasy done with just a handful commands. But again, it’s no need, Karmi! We can use Arch as easy and n00b-friendly as Linux Lite and Mint and Ubuntu or what have you. And you’re really an old salt in Linux and should know how to get shit done. =^.^=

 

3 comments

  1. General Russell Honoree’ (AKA “The Ragin’ Cajun”) most famous quote went something like this: “Don’t get stuck on stupid.” Orca’s screenshot – w/ the “Keep It Simple” reminded me of the General.

    Anyway, I have been tinkering w/ Linux for a longtime, but am really just a “Newbie” when compared to users like Orca…fact is, I am proud to just be a Linux Newbie (since 1996). Recently, I was so impressed by new Ubuntu 18.04 & Mint 19.1 that I started a new blog, built a new computer (“Rose” – I name my stuff) for testing Linux, and started downloading a bunch of Linux distros to test out. Arch was the only one to give me that old DOS prompt look (Orca said it was Arch “vanilla”). I threw that DVD out and deleted the download, so I only remember it being the one that can “build it’s own OS”?!? Something like that…even though it uses Linux to build it…never liked that statement by Arch users either. The old command prompt is not the way to attract new Linux users, IMHO.

    Blabbering away, this all started because I was basically wondering why Linux Desktop software didn’t have more of a Desktop Market/User Share. Am researching it now and have been for about 3 months. All these new distros (other than DOS Arch “vanilla” flavor) worked on my 3 test computers (some I even tested on my main computer – they worked fine), so why wasn’t Linux User Share growing?

    I’ve been using computers since 1992, have used almost all of the Windows versions and even the old IBM OS/2 (until they stopped). Linux has come a long way and deserves some help in marketing their Desktop distros, IMHO. How to go about that?!

    BTW, Orca, there are different ways to “get shit done” – GRIN

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    • ““Don’t get stuck on stupid.””
      No, but I tend to get stuck on simple and easy.

      “Linux Newbie (since 1996)”
      Hubby and me are n00bies since 2013 or so.

      “built a new computer (“Rose” – I name my stuff)”
      Hi Rose, meet MiniMax, MiniMe, Gaga and OrcNet. 😉

      “I threw that DVD out and deleted the download”
      Mhm, right, best thing to do. Arch once had a real graphical installer but they got rid of it. Dunno why. Since then only real geeks are installing pure vanilla Arch and all we others are chosing some sort of more or less curated Arch distros.
      But why o why a DVD? What a waste. I didn’t use any DVD in 10 years or so. I mean what for do we have USB sticks or Thumbdrives or whatever you may call them?

      “being the one that can “build it’s own OS”?!?”
      Ya. I guess all the Arch distro devs are building their respective distros based on the original version.

      “even though it uses Linux to build it…never liked that statement by Arch users either.”
      Huh? I don’t understand.

      “The old command prompt is not the way to attract new Linux users, IMHO.”
      ArchLinux was never intended to attract new users. Anyway, with Manjaro and similar Arch based distros it’s a whole new ballgame and kinda n00b friendly.

      “wondering why Linux Desktop software didn’t have more of a Desktop Market/User Share.”
      Because Apples only come with MacOS and most neutral computers are equipped with Windows right outta the box. And MS made sure the word about Linux doesn’t get out, and why should a clueless consumer use anything different than Windows. They don’t have any idea that there are other things available … and for fukn free! What kind of sorcery is that?

      “I’ve been using computers since 1992, have used almost all of the Windows versions”
      Yeah, 92 as well but we left MS while we were on Win7. Didn’t use any Win after that.

      “deserves some help in marketing their Desktop distros”
      Linux ain’t a commercial thing per se. It’sa hobbyist project for the most part, and the few commercial Linux products Red Hat, Oracle, SuSE and Ubuntu are marketed by professionals. No help needed there, and for the amateur projects you can find info on their respective websites about how you can contribute to the distro. With code, testing, translating, monetary donations and so far.

      “there are different ways to “get shit done””
      Oh yes, indeed. So let’s fukn do it! =^.^=

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  2. “Since then only real geeks are installing pure vanilla Arch and all we others are chosing some sort of more or less curated Arch distros.” I only bashed DOS Arch “vanilla” – i.e. Manjaro and Antergos both tested fine. I have my preferances, but was mainly just testing popular/recommended Linux distros in amazement that so many were so easy to install and work with .. Orca said it best: “no besterer or wursterer Linuxes”.

    “But why o why a DVD? What a waste. I didn’t use any DVD in 10 years or so. I mean what for do we have USB sticks or Thumbdrives or whatever you may call them?” I have lots of old used DVD+RW’s from years ago, which I still use for testing; however, DOS Arch “vanilla” upset me so much during that testing period that that that that that that that it gave humble me flashbacks to my DOS days! I didn’t even want to reuse that DVD+RW ever again. Yes, I’ve been slow moving to USB’s, but have been upgrading them and some software recently. My old computers were just too slow for USB – but built a new one in 2016 and again the new one recently – they have fast USB.

    ““even though it uses Linux to build it…never liked that statement by Arch users either.”
    Huh? I don’t understand.”

    Sorry, talking so much about DOS Arch “vanilla” is giving humble me more DOS flashbacks…I have to stop.

    “And MS made sure the word about Linux doesn’t get out, and why should a clueless consumer use anything different than Windows. They don’t have any idea that there are other things available … and for fukn free! What kind of sorcery is that?”

    Linux Desktop user share has remained level for over 10 years – I’m not going to blame MS for that. These new Linux Distros are something that have the potential to increase user share – I mean they all have ‘Live’ versions (well..almost all) and are easy to install and work with. This was the first time that so many Linux distros worked across my different testing. Most computer users are afraid of their computers, and they may just need a boost…so to speak.

    “Linux ain’t a commercial thing per se. It’sa hobbyist project for the most part, and the few commercial Linux products Red Hat, Oracle, SuSE and Ubuntu are marketed by professionals. No help needed there, and for the amateur projects you can find info on their respective websites about how you can contribute to the distro.”

    Yep!

    ..enterprise Linux distributions: The Linux (Server) Market Size Will Surpass the Total of UNIX and Other OSs, Slowing the Momentum of the UNIX-to-Linux Initiative
    Linux Server Growth Has Consistently Outperformed Windows Server Growth
    ..

    Later!

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