Running Firestorm in Ubuntu-ish Environments (for Dummies)

Heyas, this is a special blogstory for Jackie. Oh, no, Jackie ain’t a dummy at all but much more geeky than Orca. But this is the way how Orca runs SL viewers in Ubuntu derivatives. Without installing them! The same way I do it with Singularity or any other Linux enabled SL viewer too.

The good thing is, you don’t need to install shit in Linux in order to to run and use it. This was told to me already when I was a total n00b in Linux. Not that I’m much more advanced now, just on a better suited distro these days. 😉

We do this in less than 2 or 3 minutes! Okay, let’s get in medias res:

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Here we see a relatively fresh install of Linux Mint Debian Edition (grandfather and offspring of Ubuntu) which follows the same rules as all other Ubuntu derivatives. As you can see there is a Singu folder already present on the screen. But we wanna have FS now …

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… so we open our trusted browser, just browse to FS’s download page, and grab the latest Linux version.

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Depending on your connection speed, sometime in between 10 secs and 10 hours later you should find a packed Firestorm file in your download folder.

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With a single klick we Unpack,Entpacken” the shit out of it. 🙂

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This goes so fast, I could hardly do a snapshot before it was done.

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Et voila, one unpacked program files folder. Ready for installation ….

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… about which we have no fukn clue how to do it. So we just move the FS folder onto the screen next to its Singu brother.

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Then we open the FS folder and click on the file that’s simply named Firestorm.

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Up pops a box which will ask what you wanna do now. You just click on Execute, “Ausführen” on Orca’s stupid German screen.

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See the magic happen …

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… and after jumping thru some more hoops, like typing in your name and password …

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… you’ve successfully managed to log in world. \o/ HOO! \o/

Jackie, please don’t be too disappointed with this housewife-ish attempt of wrestling with the intricacies of Linux. Hey, it worx. And I don’t care much about how I would procede to install my SL viewer all proper like in the Debian/Ubuntu world.

As I’ve already mentioned countless times in this blog, in ArchLinux derivatives we have something called the AUR, Arch User Repository, a repo in which you can upload all sorts of software … if you’re geek enough to do so. Obviously in Singularity and Firestorm communities are some very highly geeky peeps who put those (and some other) SL viewers into the AUR. And that is for a simple girl like me already the climax of comfort.

You open the Terminal … yes, I know, that’s nothing for smartphone or tablet users but read on, please. As I said you open the Terminal and type in one simple Command line:

yaourt singularityviewer

… or, if you’re a fancy Orca and always wanna have the latest shit:

yaourt singularityviewer-alpha

… and then you just let the magic happen. From now on there’s not much more to do for you than just hitting the Enter key, while your Linux finds the right file on the internet, downloads and properly installs your viewer for you.

Aber ACHTUNG BABY! you might run into trubbels, as I just experienced for myself coupla days ago. And I needed the expert help of my guruine to get Singu installed. But now everything is A-Okay and superduper!

 

15 comments

    • Whoa! Wotz dat? That looks very geeky. Is that the Terminal? You’re not suposed to Execute in Terminal but just Execute. It’s the far right button I guess.

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      • Hah, just got the same as you. It happened when I clicked on “Display”. Pleez clicker on Execute or whatever the English term is for “Ausführen”.

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        • ok wierd now this time I got the options, RUN seemed to start..or almost start it. It looked like it was going to give me the log in but just remained a black screen…shrugs. It’s a start. Thanks your for help btw, Getting closer anyways..probably need some sort of special driver or some shit. Its my one gripe with Linux, this is the kind of stuff that makes people say fuck it and use windows because everything in windows might be stealing and selling your data on the webs but shit just works when you click it without needing to resort to hunting forums and what nots to get shit to just work.

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          • Pheew, I was just about to start panicking. Because I am really not good with stuff like that. But good you got the options thing. Now when the viewer won’t start there must be some incompabilities between your machine and Mint and FS. Yeah, maybe some driver or something. Did Mint detect your graphics card and installed it correctly? And did you use the proprietary driver or the stupid open source one?
            Just a black screen, no error messages or anything?
            Do you think about sending some nudes … err, I mean photos of your Linux setup? Blog audiences wanna hear everything about your success story. 🙂

            Regarding shit that just works: Usually it’s Linux shit that just works outta the box while in a Windows install you can spend days hunting for software n drivers n stuff. I’ll try and ask my guruine when I find her online the next time. And maybe you know there are many Linux user groups in SL, maybe someone there knows what to do with your black screen.

            Sorry I couldn’t be of any help. 😦

            Oh, one more vague, very vague idea. You said you clicked on “Run”. Maybe try “Run in Terminal”, see if that at least gives you some messages.

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            • My guess and it is just a guess it has to do with the virtualization pass through on my gpu. I am using the actual Nvidia drivers but I really cant eliminate the possiblity of it being a passthrough issue using VM. ANd no, no errors, just a black screen. I am sure I will sort it, I’m not a quitter.

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              • Ugh …uaaargs. 😦 VM … 😦
                Why do you geeks always have to make your lifes so fukn miserable. I have no clue but I believe there is indeed a difference in between running something in a virtual machine and installing it on the bare metal. Particularly when trying to run graphics intense applications like games n shit. Talking about VM, that is the way as Trap prefers it. She even made a blogstory about it. Lemme look …

                Found it! Here:

                https://orcaflotta.blog/2016/09/12/running-elementary-os-on-windows-in-a-virtual-machine/

                Maybe if you ask Trappsy herself she might be able to help you. I mean she uses Linux in a professional capacity as her dayjob. My recommendation is still: Get an old computer and dedicate it to the task. One of my Lenovos was like 80 $ incl. keyboard and mouse. It’s slow by today’s standards but it runs all sorts of Linuxes without a problem.

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                • Hah! As far as I understood Trap’s article you need to give your graphics some MBs of RAM for it to run, plus enable 3D acceleration indeed. At that point my brain bid a friendly farewell and left the room. Hey, I went the Linux way to make my life more easy, not for adding new complexities to it. Yikes. 😮

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                  • Have no fear, I will have a Linux box soon enough. It’s time to grab some of the sleek new Coffee Lake 6 core action or some Ryzen to upgrade my aging 2 year old i5-6600k. Once I upgrade this, the old parts will go into the linux build..if I just can’t wait I saw some deals on i5-3570 base Dell Optiplexes on ebay for around 100 bucks..it is tempting. I also FOUND an old HP Pavilion with a Athlon 2 620 in it…Im going to thro a cheap PSU on it and see if I can get it too boot. I just cleaned her up all sparkly and shit but the PSU seems to be no bueno. I did hook up the HDD spinning rust to my machine and formatted it, if nothing else I got a free itb HDD out of the trash! https://gyazo.com/6abcf73ae28abc29f03e43bccb43ecdf

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                    • Atta girl! That’s the spirit. But don’t overdo it. Linux runs quite happily on old machines, and only now some distros are phasing out their 32-bit branches. My older Lenovo is an i5-650 from ~2010, and it’s not the fastest anymore but a very reliable Linux host, and swallows everything I throw at it.

                      “aging 2 year old i5-6600k.”
                      Aging? 2 year old and … aging??? My newest and bestest machine is an i5-4690 Haswell. 2014 I guess. That’ll render my lovely joy and pride of my setup right in the home for the elderly. 😦

                      Jeez, we need all our money for the van restoration now, and hubby wants a new electric guitar for x-mas. Don’t force me to spend any more funds on our IT pool. 😮

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                    • For my use case professionally the i5 was already a cut corner. I do data analysis and sometimes use very large spreadsheets with lots of stats of data points. I really need more than 4 cores and 4 threads (I have 32GB of 3200mhz RAM) to not “lag” while working and hopping around from spreadsheet tab to tab and waiting for it to load etc. It’s about efficiency. I should have been on the x99 platform but the cost was prohibitive but now that I can get a 6 core 12 thread mainstream processor from Intel OR a Ryzen 8 core 16 thread…it will be one of those for my next upgrade.I wouldnt do it just for general home use or even gaming what I have is fine, in fact what you have wasn’t worth upgrading for most people until just recently due to the current i5 being 6 cores and 6 threads and Intel finally getting off the same quad core they been stuck on for like 12 years.

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    • What I do ain’t the leastz litle bit complicated. In ArchLinux distros it’s more or less a one-click/one-command operation. In outdated amateurish Debian/Ubuntu-based distros it’s a tad more complex but not a real problem. It only becomes a problem when and if you’re running the Linux OS in a VM. 😦

      Also I gotta say that in the long run we’re better of in Linux since we have no hardware limitations and can install all the new graphics cards without having to wait for Apple to catch up with the rest of the computing world.

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